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			<title><![CDATA[ John17:1-5(Read This) ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ Here is John Calvin's Comments<br>CHAPTER 17<br><br><br><br>John 17:1-5<br><br>1. These words spake Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, Father, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee: 2. As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he may give eternal life to all whom thou hast given to him. 3. And this is eternal life, that they may know thee, the only true God, and him whom thou hast sent, Jesus Christ. 4. I have glorified thee on the... ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Thu, 19 Dec 2002 02:14:09 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ Compelling Arguments vs. Absolute Proof ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ Suppose a carpenter is accused of robbing a store, and youve been selected for the jury in his trial. <br><br>The prosecutor lays out his case first, and it is a compelling array of evidence. He shows that the mans fingerprints were found at the crime scene. Then he documents that the accused went on a spending spree after the crime that totaled far more money than his modest income would allow. He even brings out a few letters and tape recordings of some of the carpenters own words that... ]]></description>

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			<author>feeds@yuku.com (Phil Maxwell)</author>
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			<title><![CDATA[ Yehoshua Ha'Moshiach, ben David. ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ I am going to take a break from the internet for a few months, but before I got, let me paste something from the document I am working on.<br><br>Confusion in Trinity doctrine<br><br>1st Corinthians 14:33 For God is not a God of confusion but of peace. As in all the churches of the saints.<br><br><br> Athanasian Creed, The Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Spirit is God, and yet there are not three Gods but one God.<br><br> Against Praxeas 9 [A.D. 216], Keep always in mind the... ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Thu, 28 Nov 2002 22:20:55 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ About The Trinity ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ Everything that the trinitarians claims makes Jesus God. Are the same things we can do also. And it doesnt make us God.<br>Matt 20:22-23<br>22 But Jesus answered and said, &quot;You do not know what you ask. Are you able to drink the cup that I am about to drink, and be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with?&quot; They said to Him, &quot;We are able.&quot;<br>23 So He said to them, &quot;You will indeed drink My cup, and be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with; but to... ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Thu, 28 Nov 2002 15:10:19 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ Christ is the &quot;Messiah the Prince&quot; of Daniel 9:25 ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ I think that it is importent to realize that Jesus,<br>who is called Christ in the Greek New Testament,<br>is the prophecised "Messiah the Prince" of Daniel 9:25 <br><br>This is sometimes lost sight of, <br>because the Greek New Testament refers to the "Messiah" as "Christ"<br><br>In John 1:41 it is acknowledged that the Hebrew term "Messiah" <br>is being translated into Greek as "Christ"<br><br>>>><br>He first findeth his own brother Simon, <br>and saith unto him, <br>We have found the... ]]></description>

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			<author>feeds@yuku.com (Exodus Six Verse Three)</author>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 25 Nov 2002 10:56:55 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ Echad, never in plural. ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ I will just start this post of, the things I will state are facts, but there is always room for opinions, and maybe someone will get educated by this post.<br><br>Let's start out with saying that Trinitarians will often use multiplication for the Trinity doctrine, yet they do not realize they use it in vain. In order to use 1 x 1 (which means you repeat the same thing) we need to say that Trinity is three Fathers for 1 x 1 x 1, or Trinity is three Sons for 1 x 1 x 1, or Trinity is... ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Sat, 23 Nov 2002 03:21:07 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ Reply to Phil Maxwell [&quot;Yeh&quot; vs &quot;Yah&quot; ] ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ Under the subject heading ["Yeh" vs "Yah" ] on another thread, <br>Phil Maxwell says:<br><br>>>><br>My hold-up on the "Yeh" of "Yeshua" and "Yehoshua" <br>is that we can be pretty certain that the first syllable of His name<br>came from His Father's name, <br>the poetical contraction of which is "Yah" <br>(Ps 68:4, Strongs OT #3050).<br><br>Comments? <br>>>><br><br>Possible the <b>Yeh</B> in <b>Yeh</b>oshua <br>[e.g. the first syllable in Yehoshua]<br>is directly derived from the... ]]></description>

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			<title><![CDATA[ Is the son of Nun's name Yehoshua or Yahshua? ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ Both the Ben Chayyim Hebrew text <br>and the BHS Hebrew text preserve the 2nd Hebrew form shown below,<br>as the name of the Son of Nun.<br><br>The Ben Chayyim Hebrew text also preserves the form marked [Full].<br>[in one or two verses]<br><br>Most Christian Bibles call the son of Nun, Joshua. <br><br><IMG SRC="http://www.myezboard.com/projects/ezboard/ezboard_userimages/theauthorizedversion83540/images/Exodus10.jpg"><br><br>The name "Yehoshua" appears to be a letter-by-letter... ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Thu, 21 Nov 2002 03:46:00 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ More on the Trinity ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ Phil,<p>Continuing here with the discussion about the Trinity, as you suggested on the "Sound Off" board:</p><p>I think your description of the church's use of the doctrine of the Trinity as a "tenet of salvation" or a "litmus test for true brotherhood" is somewhat inaccurate. It is not as if the church is arbitrarily setting an irrelevant or unBiblical standard. It seems that an accurate, Biblical understanding of one's own salvation demands at least a belief in Christ's deity and Christ's... ]]></description>

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			<author>feeds@yuku.com (MikeJDavis)</author>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 11 Nov 2002 11:18:59 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ The Trinity History ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ Most Christians in the world today believe in the Trinity which is the union of the three divine persons -- Father, Son, and Holy Spirit -- into one Godhead. The Dictionary states that doctrine is something taught as the principles of a religion and that dogma is a doctrine formally and authoritatively affirmed but not necessarily proven. The Trinity, therefore, is a principle that can be considered dogmatic.<br> <br>Sincere Christians, however, are more interested in obtaining accurate... ]]></description>

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			<author>feeds@yuku.com (VICTOR)</author>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 11 Nov 2002 11:16:37 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ Relativism and the Trinity ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ I found the following definition of truth posted on an internet message board the other day. Unfortunately, the example given illuminates the reality of the so-called Christian orthodoxy, demonstrating the direct link between Relativism and Trinitarianism.<blockquote>Truth = the agreements formed in a community. <br><br>This concept of truth seems much more "Christian" than the modern concept. None of us can actually know the way things really are, we are just too limited/finite. We are... ]]></description>

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			<author>feeds@yuku.com (Phil Maxwell)</author>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 05 Nov 2002 15:31:57 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ Only One Guarantee In The Word ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ ONLY GUARANTEE (HOLY SPIRIT QUOTING VERSES)<br>Deut 13:1-3 OLD TESTAMENT<br>1&nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &quot;If there arises among you a prophet or a dreamer of dreams, and he gives you a sign or a wonder,<br>2&nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &quot;and the sign or the wonder comes to pass, of which he spoke to you, saying, 'Let us go after other gods'-- which you have not known--' and let us serve them,'<br>3&nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &quot;you shall not listen to the words of that prophet or that dreamer... ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Tue, 05 Nov 2002 08:29:36 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ It's a no brainer! ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ It really seems strange to me that people still believe in the trinity doctrine!<br>Was/is Jesus a man like the bible says in 1Tim 2:5? If he is a man, came in the flesh, then he is not God! Numbers 23:19 specifically states that God is not a man, nor the son of man! Does not scripture say that God is Spirit and that we must worship him is spirit and truth? Did not Jesus call the Father &quot;the only true God&quot; in John 17? Doesn't John 1:18 say that &quot;no man has seen God at any... ]]></description>

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			<author>feeds@yuku.com (TDlefty)</author>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 01 Nov 2002 13:19:03 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ Born Again ]]></title>
			<link>http://stdebate.yuku.com/topic/801/t/Born-Again.html</link>
			<description><![CDATA[ BORN AGAIN<br><br>John 9:1-3<br>1&nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp Now as Jesus passed by, He saw a man who was blind from birth.<br>2&nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp And His disciples asked Him, saying, &quot;Rabbi, who sinned, this man or his parents, that he was born blind?&quot;<br>3&nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp Jesus answered, &quot;Neither this man nor his parents sinned, but that the works of God should be revealed in him.<br>John 3:5-7<br>5&nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp Jesus answered, &quot;Most assuredly, I say to... ]]></description>

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			<author>feeds@yuku.com (SqueakyBrown)</author>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 31 Oct 2002 21:25:29 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ Good Shepherd -Preachers ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ <br> GOOD SHEPHERDS<br>James 3:1-2<br>1&nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp My brethren, let not many of you become teachers, knowing that we shall receive a stricter judgment.<br>2&nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp For we all stumble in many things. If anyone does not stumble in word, he is a perfect man, able also to bridle the whole body.<br>Rom 15:17-18<br>17&nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp Therefore I have reason to glory in Christ Jesus in the things which pertain to God.<br>18&nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp For I will not... ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Thu, 31 Oct 2002 09:02:36 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ Some Preachers ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ <br> PREACHERS (SOME)(WHICH ONES?)<br>Matt 23:1-10<br>1&nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp Then Jesus spoke to the multitudes and to His disciples,<br>2&nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp saying: &quot;The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat.<br>3&nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &quot;Therefore whatever they tell you to observe, that observe and do, but do not do according to their works; for they say, and do not do.<br>4&nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &quot;For they bind heavy burdens, hard to bear, and lay them on men's... ]]></description>

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			<title><![CDATA[ Abusive Preachers ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ SOME PREACHERS ABUSE THEIR AUTHORITY<br>1 Cor 9:18<br>18&nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp What is my reward then? That when I preach the gospel, I may present the gospel of Christ without charge, that I may not abuse my authority in the gospel.<br>Gal 5:17<br>17&nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp For the flesh lusts against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh; and these are contrary to one another, so that you do not do the things that you wish.<br>2 Cor 2:11<br>11&nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp lest Satan should... ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Thu, 31 Oct 2002 08:57:55 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ Men Pleaser-Preachers ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ MEN-PLEASING PREACHERS<br>1 Cor 9:13-18<br>13&nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp Do you not know that those who minister the holy things eat of the things of the temple, and those who serve at the altar partake of the offerings of the altar?<br>14&nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp Even so the Lord has commanded that those who preach the gospel should live from the gospel.<br>15&nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp But I have used none of these things, nor have I written these things that it should be done so to me; for it would... ]]></description>

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			<title><![CDATA[ Pushy Preachers ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ OVER BEARING PREACHERS (NAGGERS, PUSHY, DEMANDING) <br>1 Cor 9:16-18<br>16&nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp For if I preach the gospel, I have nothing to boast of, for necessity is laid upon me; yes, woe is me if I do not preach the gospel!<br>17&nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp For if I do this willingly, I have a reward; but if against my will, I have been entrusted with a stewardship.<br>18&nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp What is my reward then? That when I preach the gospel, I may present the gospel of Christ without... ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Thu, 31 Oct 2002 08:53:37 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ Prophecy ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ I seen a prophecy on my e-mail yesterday but when I came in here to study it I couldnt find it. Did anyone else see it. ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Wed, 23 Oct 2002 15:59:07 GMT</pubDate>
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