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wayseeker	Re: Gods are many...	#1	[url]	[-]
Posts: 88 02/21/03 02:38:18	Greeting Phil, YOU: He pre-existed in heaven as a second God under Yahweh the Father and became a man rather than having been merely born as a man? ME:That is exactly right! What most people don't get; is how great of a sacrifice that Yahweh Elohim made. When Yahshua came in the form of man, He could have failed. This is proven by His temptation as we were tempted. When Adam fell, there remained only the Son or the Father left to redeem man-kind. Once the Son decided to set aside His Elohim status, all of mankinds hopes were wrapped up in Him. There existed a chance that He would loose His Eternal life, because He became like you and me. Praise Yah He lives!!! Be at peace wayseeker
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Phil Maxwell	Re: Gods are many...	#2	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1456 02/21/03 10:36:21 Founder	Wayseeker, I'm glad that I understand where you're coming from, even though I disagree. Perhaps you would care to start a new thread asserting and explaining your position. It sounds like your position denies Yahshua's genuine humanity, which I disagree with. FYI, Gordy wrote an article refuting the pre-existence of Yahshua several years ago: Pre-existent Christ - Origins of Messiah Also, aside from not allowing revisions, EZBoard only allows 5 options on polls. I'll probably re-do the poll sometime in the future and replace one of the options with "None of the Above". *Phil Maxwell* Simple Truth Ministries
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Andrew Hummel	Re: Gods are many... ( intresting reading)	#3	[url]	[-]
Posts: 587 02/21/03 12:13:30	Hi Phil The trinity Foundation is; God the Father God the Son God the Holy Spirit There is about a thousand ways to explain this belief, not one found in the bible though. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx For believers in Jesus Christ; God the Father Jesus the Son The Holy Spirit example: Grace, mercy, and peace will be with you from God the Father and from the Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of the Father, in truth and love. ( 1 John 1:3)( N.K.J.) Jesus being a man created or made by God. Jesus being a Man sent by God the Father. This Man (Jesus), currently seated at the right hand of God. (Jesus today, 1 Timothy 2:5) xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx I could be wrong but i think you and Wayseeker could be on two different Spiritual foundations. Intresting reading. God Bless both of you. Andrew
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Phil Maxwell	Re: Gods are many... ( intresting reading)	#4	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1456 02/21/03 13:48:34 Founder	Andrew, I suppose all our foundations will ultimately be tested, but until/unless otherwise shown, I'd assume that you, Wayseeker, and I all truly believe that Yahshua is the Christ, the Son of the Living God, which is THE foundation Yahshua said will withstand the gates of hell. The proof is in the pudding, though, and that is whether or not we actually keep Yahshua's commandment to love one another above all; if He really is our Lord, we will do as He says. I'm glad you're sticking around, Andrew. You are a precious brother. *Phil Maxwell* Simple Truth Ministries
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wayseeker	Re: Gods are many...	#5	[url]	[-]
Posts: 88 02/21/03 19:19:53	Greeting Phil Maxwell, I went to Gordy's post. Thanks for the link. Now that I have read GC's position and believe that it is your's as well. I see where your understanding comes from. I accept the fact that you and I disagree on this point. I hope we can disagree without being disagreeable. I am a student and a teacher of Yahshua. I hope all of my brothern use this time to grow in peace and knowledge of Yahshua. I'll take it under advisement(state my position) on a separate post. Be at peace wayseeker
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Phil Maxwell	Re: Gods are many...	#6	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1456 02/21/03 19:45:25 Founder	Thanks, Wayseeker. For the record (meaning, throw my own words right back at me if I forget), I won't put mental disagreements over Yahshua's first, last, and all encompassing spiritual commandment to love one another. That said, I look forward showing you the error of your ways, you heretic...just kidding. *Phil Maxwell* Simple Truth Ministries
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Who do YOU say Christ is?	11/24/02 11:07:49	Phil Maxwell
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Re: Who do YOU say Christ is?	11/25/02 03:49:47	Exodus Six Verse Three
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Re: Who do YOU say Christ is?	11/25/02 13:57:18	Exodus Six Verse Three
Re: Who do YOU say Christ is?	11/25/02 15:29:12	SqueakyBrown
Truth is banned here?	11/28/02 08:19:08	Unregistered(d)
No, but bad manners ARE.	11/28/02 09:38:16	JR Brooks
Your Fear is misplaced..	11/28/02 09:56:00	Unregistered(d)
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Poll Options	02/18/03 13:08:09	Phil Maxwell
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Re: Gods are many...	02/18/03 23:06:03	wayseeker
Re: Gods are many...	02/20/03 12:00:43	Phil Maxwell
Re: Gods are many...	02/21/03 02:38:18	wayseeker
Re: Gods are many...	02/21/03 10:36:21	Phil Maxwell
Re: Gods are many... ( intresting reading)	02/21/03 12:13:30	Andrew Hummel
Re: Gods are many... ( intresting reading)	02/21/03 13:48:34	Phil Maxwell
Re: Gods are many...	02/21/03 19:19:53	wayseeker
Re: Gods are many...	02/21/03 19:45:25	Phil Maxwell
Re: Who do YOU say Christ is?	01/07/03 06:59:22	Andrew Hummel
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Re: Who do YOU say Christ is?	02/19/03 18:38:50	wayseeker
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I hope you don't.........	02/20/03 05:13:30	TDlefty
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Eternal life according to Jesus Christ..( John 17:3)	06/02/03 06:58:58	Andrew Hummel
see God	06/10/03 20:18:38	Danpech
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Re: Who do YOU say Christ is?	06/05/03 08:07:52	Phil Maxwell
Eternal life according to Jesus Christ..( John 17:3)....	06/05/03 11:33:21	Andrew Hummel
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Jesus Christ claims, that God is His Father...John 20:17	12/05/05 07:01:42	Andrew Hummel
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Re: Jesus Christ claims, that God is His Father...John 20:17	04/03/06 16:08:04	Andrew Hummel
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Re: Jesus Christ claims, that God is His Father...John 20:17	04/06/06 15:44:56	Squeakybro
Re: Jesus Christ claims, that God is His Father...John 20:17	04/06/06 16:26:50	Andrew Hummel
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Its simple	12/21/05 04:43:30	Squeakybro
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