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Phil Maxwell	Who do YOU say Christ is?		Lead	[-]
Posts: 1456 11/24/02 11:07:49 Founder	Tags : None Agreement that He is the Christ, the Son of the Living God, is assumed... (Mt 16:16), so the question is really what/who, if anything, else do you say He is? I'll paste this to the top so that time will give a read about the mix of those frequenting this board. Please vote, and please vote only once. Comments are welcome, but please start new threads for discussions/debates. *Phil Maxwell* Simple Truth Ministries
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Posts: 0 11/24/02 21:02:34	He's more than a mere man, yet he is not Michael archangel, nor is he the Eternal God. The Truth Be Known Listen true believers, The Eternal our God, The Eternal is one. You shall love The Eternal your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your might.
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Exodus Six Verse Three	Re: Who do YOU say Christ is?	#2	[url]	[-]
Posts: 138 11/25/02 03:49:47	The previous [REPLY] should not have been posted here. The [REPLY] has been deleted. Exodus
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SqueakyBrown	Re: Who do YOU say Christ is?	#3	[url]	[-]
Posts: 651 11/25/02 10:40:36 Faithful Witness	Exodus I dont think you understand how God confirmed it to Peter. By opening his understanding so he could believe. Luke 24:13-16 13 Now behold, two of them were traveling that same day to a village called Emmaus, which was about seven miles from Jerusalem. 14 And they talked together of all these things which had happened. 15 So it was, while they conversed and reasoned, that Jesus Himself drew near and went with them. 16 But their eyes were restrained, so that they did not know Him. (NKJ) Luke 24:30-31 30 Now it came to pass, as He sat at the table with them, that He took bread, blessed and broke it, and gave it to them. 31 Then their eyes were opened and they knew Him; and He vanished from their sight. (NKJ)
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SqueakyBrown	Re: Who do YOU say Christ is?	#4	[url]	[-]
Posts: 651 11/25/02 10:47:16 Faithful Witness	There is a big delusion with the trinitarians about how God reveals things to people. Matt 16:13-17 13 When Jesus came into the region of Caesarea Philippi, He asked His disciples, saying, "Who do men say that I, the Son of Man, am?" 14 So they said, "Some say John the Baptist, some Elijah, and others Jeremiah or one of the prophets." 15 He said to them, "But who do you say that I am?" 16 Simon Peter answered and said, "You are the Christ, the Son of the living God." 17 Jesus answered and said to him, "Blessed are you, Simon Bar-Jonah, for flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but My Father who is in heaven. (NKJ) Matt 9:30 30 And their eyes were opened. And Jesus sternly warned them, saying, "See that no one knows it." (NKJ) God doesnt talk or speak to them. He opens their understanding. John 5:37 37 "And the Father Himself, who sent Me, has testified of Me. You have neither heard His voice at any time, nor seen His form. (NKJ)
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Exodus Six Verse Three	Re: Who do YOU say Christ is?	#5	[url]	[-]
Posts: 138 11/25/02 13:57:18	SqueakyBrown, I didn't realize that Phil Maxwell did not want discussions on this thread, until after I had posted my [REPLY] Phil had said: >>> Comments are welcome, but please start new threads for discussions/debates. >>> While I was deleting my [REPLY], which took place at 11:26:12 A.M., you were in the process of answering the [REPLY] that I have now deleted. You posted at 11:40:36 A.M., about 14 minutes after I deleted my entire first [REPLY] My deleted [REPLY] is now a new thread: Christ is the "Messiah the Prince" of Daniel 9:25 Exodus
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SqueakyBrown	Re: Who do YOU say Christ is?	#6	[url]	[-]
Posts: 651 11/25/02 15:29:12 Faithful Witness	Phil is a man of his word. So I guess he will delete mine also. I havent ever found out how to delete my own yet.
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Unregistered(d)	Truth is banned here?	#7	[url]	[-]
Posts: 0 11/28/02 08:19:08	Christ is God. Your teaching comes from the other camp.
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JR Brooks	No, but bad manners ARE.	#8	[url]	[-]
Posts: 359 11/28/02 09:38:16	When you get done picking the wool from your teeth, take a good look in the mirror and smile. The only place that you find wool and fangs together is in wolf's mouths. JR
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Unregistered(d)	Your Fear is misplaced..	#9	[url]	[-]
Posts: 0 11/28/02 09:56:00	Truth is a bit frightening to you huh? You should embrace the truth. It's judgement for your rejection of the truth that you should fear.
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SqueakyBrown	louie	#10	[url]	[-]
Posts: 651 11/28/02 18:32:23 Faithful Witness	Have you ever read the Word of God? It doesnt say Jesus was God. It doesnt say God the Son. It doesnt say God the Holy Spirit. What it says is this; There is one God the Father. Thats it, thats all, the end. Eph 4:6 6 one God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all. (NKJ) 1 Cor 8:6 6 yet for us there is one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we for Him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, through whom are all things, and through whom we live. (NKJ)
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Eric Halleck	Re: Your Fear is misplaced..	#11	[url]	[-]
Posts: 249 12/09/02 12:25:53 Peacemaker	Hi louie, May I ask but what authority you can make such claims as you do? So those who don't agree with YOU are in fear of judgement? How arrogant. If you have something constructive to offer, please do. We're into building around here, not tearing down. Eric Halleck <BR> <A HREF="http://www.planetkc.com/stm/">Simple Truth Ministries</A>
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Karaite	Re: Who do YOU say Christ is?	#12	[url]	[-]
Posts: 44 12/29/02 19:30:10	I don't see my belief up there, or at least I did not see it clear. Jesus is the Son of God, from before Creation (Earthly, material). First-"born" of Creation, through whom all things that are were made. He is God, but not the Father. The Father is the one and True God of All (creation and) Things! Jesus is God in nature, for He was begotten of God. So, that is my answer.
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SqueakyBrown	Karaite	#13	[url]	[-]
Posts: 651 12/29/02 21:58:28 Faithful Witness	You said Jesus is the Son of God, from before Creation (Earthly, material). First-"born" of Creation, through whom all things that are were made. He is God, but not the Father. The Father is the one and True God of All (creation and) Things! Jesus is God in nature, for He was begotten of God. I said That can be alittle deceiving. Not that the Father is God and the creator. But the part about Jesus being God in nature. Now its true that God was working through Jesus. But we shouldnt say that Jesus is God because of His divine nature. Because we can have that same divine nature that Jesus had and we won't be God. Acts 17:29-30 29 "Therefore, since we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Divine Nature is like gold or silver or stone, something shaped by art and man's devising. 30 "Truly, these times of ignorance God overlooked, but now commands all men everywhere to repent, (NKJ) The same divine nature. 2 Pet 1:4 4 by which have been given to us exceedingly great and precious promises, that through these you may be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust. (NKJ)
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Andrew Hummel	Re: Who do YOU say Christ is?	#14	[url]	[-]
Posts: 587 01/07/03 06:59:22	"Who do you say Christ is." ( God "made" Jesus both Lord and Christ.) ( Acts 2:36) "Christ" means, " the anointed one." "You are the Christ, the Son of the living God." ( Mathew 16:16) xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Why God sent His Son. But when the fullness of time had come, God sent forth His Son, born of a woman, born under the Law. to redeem those who were under the law, that we recieve the adoption as Sons. ( Galations 4:4-5) For the law was given by Moses,"but Grace and truth came through "Jesus Christ." ( John 1:17) God's purpose in sending His Son was to redeem men from the laws of Moses, and bring them to the Grace and truth of "Jesus Christ." Andrew Hummel
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Eric Halleck	Re: Who do YOU say Christ is?	#15	[url]	[-]
Posts: 249 01/07/03 14:14:10 Peacemaker	Hi Andrew, To us is given the words of reconciliation. This simple message gets lost in so many dogmas of men. Thanks for your post! Eric Halleck Simple Truth Ministries
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Proverbs c9v9	Subject.	#16	[url]	[-]
Posts: 66 01/09/03 06:05:28	Yehoshua Ha'Mashiach is the representation of YHVH. Need Some Wisdom?
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wayseeker	Re: Karaite	#17	[url]	[-]
Posts: 88 02/17/03 22:35:28	Sorry Phil, (I just could not help myself); SqueakBrown; Not only do I agree with Karaite, I further disagree with your statement: "Because we can have that same divine nature that Jesus had and we won't be God." I will not lie about something that I know to be true. After all of the creation, everything being created after their kind. Adam is formed after the Elohim(G-d) kind. Ge 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. Phil should have included the choice: () Yahshua(Chr-st) is Elohim(G-d),under Elohim(G-d) the Father and IS NOT part of the Trinity. or at the very least: () NONE of the above May the force be with you wayseeker
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SqueakyBrown	Re: Karaite	#18	[url]	[-]
Posts: 651 02/18/03 08:56:50 Faithful Witness	wayseeker if you dont agree with me, then you are disagreeing with the Word of God. Because all I done was to quote what the Word says. 2 Pet 1:4 4 by which have been given to us exceedingly great and precious promises, that through these you may be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust. (NKJ)
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Phil Maxwell	Poll Options	#19	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1456 02/18/03 13:08:09 Founder	Sorry, Wayseeker, I didnt mean to exclude any viable options. It sounds like you are saying that Yahshua is a man in essence who holds the position of god under God the Father and over all else. If so, how does that differ from option #4 or #5? *Phil Maxwell* Simple Truth Ministries
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Phil Maxwell	Gods are many...	#20	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1456 02/18/03 13:32:07 Founder	Wayseeker, You wrote: I further disagree with [Squeakys] statement: Because we can have that same divine nature that Jesus had and we won't be God. I think that when Squeaky says we wont be God, he means THE only true God, Yahweh the Father and Creator of heaven and earth. However, if I understand Wayseeker correctly, he means the term God as the exalted King or Ruler, the One who was given all power in heaven and earth, the Head of all men, Yahshua. As I see it, considering what it seems each of you actually mean, both are right. Yahshua isnt THE only true God, but He certainly is the One His Father gave all power, authority, judgment and made both Lord and Christ. As such He can correctly be called God. Moreover, though no man, including Yahshua Himself, can be THE God, Yahweh the Father, those who overcome will be gods in the resurrection inasmuch as they, too, will be exalted above angels. Confusion like this is why I am generally specific about who I mean when I speak of the God of the Bible by referring to Him as such or by His unique name or title (e.g. Yahweh, the Father). It is also why, though I consider it tehnically accurate, I dont generally refer to Yahshua or any other man as God or gods. I guess Id rather communicate than argue over semantics. *Phil Maxwell* Simple Truth Ministries
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Who do YOU say Christ is?	11/24/02 11:07:49	Phil Maxwell
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Re: Who do YOU say Christ is?	11/25/02 03:49:47	Exodus Six Verse Three
Re: Who do YOU say Christ is?	11/25/02 10:40:36	SqueakyBrown
Re: Who do YOU say Christ is?	11/25/02 10:47:16	SqueakyBrown
Re: Who do YOU say Christ is?	11/25/02 13:57:18	Exodus Six Verse Three
Re: Who do YOU say Christ is?	11/25/02 15:29:12	SqueakyBrown
Truth is banned here?	11/28/02 08:19:08	Unregistered(d)
No, but bad manners ARE.	11/28/02 09:38:16	JR Brooks
Your Fear is misplaced..	11/28/02 09:56:00	Unregistered(d)
Re: Your Fear is misplaced..	12/09/02 12:25:53	Eric Halleck
louie	11/28/02 18:32:23	SqueakyBrown
Re: louie	03/31/06 02:40:14	SaltedPeter
Re: louie	03/31/06 12:23:34	Squeakybro
Re: Who do YOU say Christ is?	12/29/02 19:30:10	Karaite
Karaite	12/29/02 21:58:28	SqueakyBrown
Re: Karaite	02/17/03 22:35:28	wayseeker
Re: Karaite	02/18/03 08:56:50	SqueakyBrown
Poll Options	02/18/03 13:08:09	Phil Maxwell
Gods are many...	02/18/03 13:32:07	Phil Maxwell
Re: Gods are many...	02/18/03 23:06:03	wayseeker
Re: Gods are many...	02/20/03 12:00:43	Phil Maxwell
Re: Gods are many...	02/21/03 02:38:18	wayseeker
Re: Gods are many...	02/21/03 10:36:21	Phil Maxwell
Re: Gods are many... ( intresting reading)	02/21/03 12:13:30	Andrew Hummel
Re: Gods are many... ( intresting reading)	02/21/03 13:48:34	Phil Maxwell
Re: Gods are many...	02/21/03 19:19:53	wayseeker
Re: Gods are many...	02/21/03 19:45:25	Phil Maxwell
Re: Who do YOU say Christ is?	01/07/03 06:59:22	Andrew Hummel
Re: Who do YOU say Christ is?	01/07/03 14:14:10	Eric Halleck
Subject.	01/09/03 06:05:28	Proverbs c9v9
Re: Who do YOU say Christ is?	02/19/03 03:14:17	Exodus Six Verse Three
Re: Who do YOU say Christ is?	02/19/03 18:38:50	wayseeker
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Re: Who do YOU say Christ is?	02/19/03 06:27:57	SqueakyBrown
Re: Who do YOU say Christ is?	02/20/03 01:07:18	wayseeker
I hope you don't.........	02/20/03 05:13:30	TDlefty
Re: Who do YOU say Christ is?	02/20/03 07:28:26	SqueakyBrown
Re: Who do YOU say Christ is?	02/21/03 02:08:14	wayseeker
Re: Who do YOU say Christ is?	02/21/03 02:44:04	Exodus Six Verse Three
Re: Who do YOU say Christ is?	02/21/03 18:10:32	wayseeker
Re: wayseeker	02/22/03 01:23:52	Exodus Six Verse Three
Re: wayseeker	02/22/03 03:02:53	wayseeker
Re: wayseeker	02/22/03 08:01:42	Exodus Six Verse Three
Re: wayseeker	02/22/03 22:56:45	wayseeker
Re: wayseeker	02/23/03 04:28:55	Exodus Six Verse Three
Re: Who do YOU say Christ is?	02/21/03 05:13:16	SqueakyBrown
Re: Who do YOU say Christ is?	02/21/03 18:40:09	wayseeker
Re: Who do YOU say Christ is?	02/21/03 19:27:04	SqueakyBrown
Re: Who do YOU say Christ is?	03/01/03 14:06:49	wayseeker
ok	05/29/03 13:49:26	SqueakyBrown
Re: Who do YOU say Christ is?	06/01/03 08:35:39	Danpech
Something's missing	06/01/03 11:18:49	JR Brooks
Re: Something's Missing	06/01/03 12:03:55	Danpech
Assumptions abound	06/01/03 14:57:07	JR Brooks
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Forgive my intrusion......	06/02/03 05:04:30	TDlefty
God needs?	06/10/03 21:16:21	Danpech
Re: God needs?	10/27/05 02:50:10	Flower101
Re: God needs?	10/27/05 06:11:34	Squeakybro
John 14-17	06/02/03 05:58:29	JR Brooks
Eternal life according to Jesus Christ..( John 17:3)	06/02/03 06:58:58	Andrew Hummel
see God	06/10/03 20:18:38	Danpech
Elimination of the ONLY Mediator	06/02/03 10:31:00	Phil Maxwell
Phil	06/02/03 12:17:57	SqueakyBrown
Re: Who do YOU say Christ is?	06/05/03 07:24:42	tartanarmy
Re: Who do YOU say Christ is?	06/05/03 08:07:52	Phil Maxwell
Eternal life according to Jesus Christ..( John 17:3)....	06/05/03 11:33:21	Andrew Hummel
tartanarmy	06/05/03 11:04:13	SqueakyBrown
Re: Who do YOU say Christ is?	12/04/05 19:01:43	zedicc
Jesus Christ claims, that God is His Father...John 20:17	12/05/05 07:01:42	Andrew Hummel
Re: Jesus Christ claims, that God is His Father...John 20:17	04/03/06 02:01:17	SaltedPeter
Re: Jesus Christ claims, that God is His Father...John 20:17	04/03/06 16:08:04	Andrew Hummel
Re: Jesus Christ claims, that God is His Father...John 20:17	04/05/06 01:16:01	SaltedPeter
Re: Jesus Christ claims, that God is His Father...John 20:17	04/05/06 20:22:25	Mystic 2002
Re: Jesus Christ claims, that God is His Father...John 20:17	04/06/06 02:29:14	SaltedPeter
Re: Jesus Christ claims, that God is His Father...John 20:17	04/06/06 15:44:56	Squeakybro
Re: Jesus Christ claims, that God is His Father...John 20:17	04/06/06 16:26:50	Andrew Hummel
Re: Jesus Christ claims, that God is His Father...John 20:17	04/10/06 03:43:37	SaltedPeter
Re: Jesus Christ claims, that God is His Father...John 20:17	04/10/06 12:51:31	Squeakybro
Re: Jesus Christ claims, that God is His Father...John 20:17	04/26/06 02:05:26	SaltedPeter
Re: Who do YOU say Christ is?	12/20/05 19:55:24	lynnoble
Re: Who do YOU say Christ is?	12/20/05 20:23:02	lynnoble
Its simple	12/21/05 04:43:30	Squeakybro
Re: Who do YOU say Christ is?	12/20/05 20:28:56	lynnoble
Re: Who do YOU say Christ is?	01/15/06 18:32:22	Bible512
Re: Who do YOU say Christ is?	04/06/06 16:50:51	Andrew Hummel
Re: Who do YOU say Christ is?	04/26/06 03:52:41	Squeakybro
Re: Who do YOU say Christ is?	02/05/07 06:46:57	ringo111
The Son Of The Living Yahweh	03/20/09 11:45:14	Frank4YAHWEH
Re: Who do YOU say Christ is?	03/20/09 15:47:38	Squeakybro